I fully agree with you.
I didn’t think about breaking any rule with the domain tryton.fr. In this case, I think you admit the landing page, its content and its URL are not misleading, but the domain “tryton” name is.
I reserved this domain to create a community content with other french trytonists. All those I am in contact with know about this initiative. This content is still not available, and I redirected the domain to my personal blog as a waiting page, because I think it is better than nothing.
Nevertheless, I never mentioned tryton.fr in any publication and I have no hope that some prospect would land on my service proposal. I guess you discovered tryton.fr by searching dns ?
If anyone in Tryton community is still uncomfortable with this tryton.fr redirection and ask for cancellation, I will cancel it.
And again, I’m in favour of this strict separation project/business.
And thinking again to the case,
Users who ask me for hosting get a tryton.online URL since 2017, and this would be difficult to change today. It was done on purpose at that time. Communication is also clear that this is not a community hosting service.
Since tryton-dach.org is available, I think it would be better to redirect tryton.de to it.
If someone tries a .de, .fr … he expects some information in his language.
As SISalp.fr is still the “best” information source I mean the only one in french about Tryton, it would be a regression. Nevertheless, at the end of the story, I don’t care.
tryton-dach.org is still under evolution to evtl. move forward to be a community portal. But it also advertises commercial extensions, thus exactly not qualifying to be forwarded to from the top level domain. Thankfully and correctly tryton.de was not used to offer this content (finally the domains are in the same hands…).
Did I understand correctly that you now don’t want to care in contrast to your inital message?
You may want to qualify your company website as the best information source about Tryton/Odoo but it is still your company website promoting your services (and finally also Odoo(!) related services under tryton.fr (!)).
I sincerely would value if you would care.
I don’t think it deserves a discussion. Either Tryton project buys the domains it wants to control, or there is no rule which can be enforced. By the way, Tryton is not only an ERP software on the web.
I think the only case where the Foundation could actually act, is if the website behind was misleading like make people think they download Tryton when it is something else (or hacked sources with malware etc).
But the Foundation already request a fair usage of the trademark, see Tryton trademark.
As I said it was agreed upon by the community members of the early TUBs to not use tryton.<tld> for commercial, company related purposes. IIRC nan-tic originally held tryton.es and as long as they owned it they didn’t use that domain to advertise their company.
Needless to say that it is out of scope for tryton.org to hold all tryton.<tld>, but it is exactly a service the community can give back to the project to provide or forward to project (and not company) related content.
It is also obviously correct that some tryton.<tld> will be owned and used for different content. That’s not the point. The important thing is to avoid a wrong appearance of direct affiliation between the project and a company. A respectful community will help by paying attention to this possible conflict. Therefore I am asking to respect this delicate matter and I am searching for community-wide consent. I am of course aware that only direct violation of the trademark can be enforced.
I have registered tryton .sh - I can redirect it to org as well.
It is not indexed in search engines and we are using an other domain as first entry point. The first idea was to have a platform to spin up projects shared between german community quickly - after a commit a tryton instance starts via podman to show it to other community members and possible clients. So far there is not much interest.
Hello all, I registered trytoncloud.ca today to provide commercial Tryton hosting services in Canada, using sub-domains to access client instances of Tryton. Is this acceptable? I recognise “tryton” is a sub-string in the TLD, but trust it is acceptable when used in a compound phrase.
