B2CK would like to organize another crowd-funding campaign (like for sao, GTK±3, task queue & notification).
We have some ideas but we would like to have your feedback about which one to start:
You can change your vote.
The options are link because of a bug in discourse. When editing it was converted into the title but once posted they are just links.
No we do not emit invoices because it is a donation-basedcrowdfunding so no VAT applies but we can send receipt letters on demand if the campaign succeed.
IIUC the referenced paper is just a discussion template. There are no discussion results included. I don’t know that it would be an EU law or the law of any of its member countries. In future it may be handled as donation-based-crowd-funding without VAT by the tax authorities, but for now IMHO we must stay on what we have: Invoicing.
As you have seen the campaign is closed and it reached only 42%. So the creation helper will not be developed for the next release nor any other propose topic.
We are disappointed by the failure and the amount collected. This amount (850€) does not even cover the effort spent by B2CK to make a single major release of Tryton. (For the record in 2018, B2CK spent more than 320 hours of volunteer work for Tryton (without counting personal time)). We are also disappointed by the number of contributors because it does not represent even 1% of the estimated users.
We think that a project like Tryton need to constantly evolve and improve if we want it to keep existing users and attract new ones. Unfortunately such investment does not seem to be possible using crowd-funding even if the topic is chosen by the community.
If the investment can not come at least partially from the community but relies mainly on B2CK’s direct customers, this can be a threat to the well-being of community.
We hope the community will find a way to secure the improvements of the project for the future.
From our point of view we try to contribute as much as possible by spending time on the project, providing new features and fixing existing issues. Having said that, we expected that the Finalize Multicompany campaing where published and we planned to donate on it, that was one reason to do not donate on the current campaign.
I always thought that a yearly recurrent donation for all service providers will be a good improvement on this way. This will allow to spend this money on the recurring expenses of the foundation and to secure a fixed amount that can be used for fund crowdfunding campaigns.
I support the idea yearly recurring donation and we would definitely contribute.
Of course, as in every cooperative, there would be challenges and discussions about the amounts and forms of the contributions and how they are used, natural for a cooperative, but these can be solved.
Anyone is free to donate the amount it prefers and the frequence it prefers. Everything is explained on the donation page. If you use the credit card option it is possible to setup a yearly or monthly donation.
@ced, The post where you mention the number of hours spent by B2CK (excl. personal time) encourages donating for me, however it is not very explicit, especially on the donation page.
These (sometimes) contain two pieces of info: The target (how much money is needed in order to carry out the annual plan) and what will be done with this money(the annual plan): for ex. x EUR electricity+internet for own servers, x EUR VPS, x hours of work-time, etc. Also perhaps mention for example that if half of the users donate x EUR then the goal will be met.
Frankly the amounts donated on the donation page are disappointing.
Perhaps have a modest goal for 2021, and increase it based on the success (or lack of) for 2022.