# VAT invoice and collect for Brexit

**URL:** <https://discuss.tryton.org/t/vat-invoice-and-collect-for-brexit/3905>\
**Category:** User\
**Tags:** accounting\
**Created:** [March 7, 2021, 9:21am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/vat-invoice-and-collect-for-brexit/3905 "2021-03-07T09:21:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![jcm](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/jcm/32/344_2.png) [@jcm](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/jcm)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:21am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/vat-invoice-and-collect-for-brexit/3905/1 "2021-03-07T09:21:56Z")

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Hi,

Since 2021/01/01 (Brexit), all sales from EU to UK (except Northern Ireland) requires that:  
— company is registered with HMRC (UK fiscal authority), with VAT number and EORI number  
— invoices print UK VAT en EORI number  
— VAT is collected by the seller and paid to HMRC upon a regular basis.

How can this be implemented in Tryton? I don’t see how a foreign tax system can be added for products and be activated only when delivery address is in UK.

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**Author:** ![ced](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/ced/32/1237_2.png) [@ced](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/ced)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:33am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/vat-invoice-and-collect-for-brexit/3905/2 "2021-03-07T09:33:17Z")

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There is already a topic about it: [Northern Ireland Protocol & VAT Numbers](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/northern-ireland-protocol-vat-numbers/3791)

> [@jcm](#):
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> I don’t see how a foreign tax system can be added for products and be activated only when delivery address is in UK.

The `account_tax_rule_country` since version 5.4 supports rules that based on the country subdivision. As the Norther Ireland is composed of [6 counties](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Northern_Ireland) of the United Kingdom, it is possible to replace the general tax rule of UK for the European one.

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**Author:** ![jcm](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/jcm/32/344_2.png) [@jcm](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/jcm)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:37am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/vat-invoice-and-collect-for-brexit/3905/3 "2021-03-07T09:37:39Z")

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I thought the topic you mention was only about the numbers. What about accounting solution to invoice now?

My idea so far is:

- create a dedicated vat account : 445719 TVA collectée pour le compte de HMRC
- create a tax for each UK VAT rate, containing the VAT and EORI UK numbers in description
- create a replacement rule for each UK VAT rate, that would be applied manually…

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**Author:** ![ced](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/ced/32/1237_2.png) [@ced](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/ced)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:55am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/vat-invoice-and-collect-for-brexit/3905/4 "2021-03-07T09:55:19Z")

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> [@jcm](#):
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> create a dedicated vat account : 445719 TVA collectée pour le compte de HMRC

Yes if the VAT is collected by another organism.

> [@jcm](#):
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> create a tax for each UK VAT rate, containing the VAT and EORI UK numbers in description

As usual for VAT of other countries (which we do not include in standard module).

> [@jcm](#):
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> create a replacement rule for each UK VAT rate, that would be applied manually…

The rule can be the general outside EU rule extended to use he new taxes for the specific subdivision thanks to `account_tax_rule_country`.  
Or if each party of Northern Ireland are always delivery there, you can just create a specific tax rule and set it to those parties.

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**Author:** ![jcm](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/jcm/32/344_2.png) [@jcm](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/jcm)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/vat-invoice-and-collect-for-brexit/3905/5 "2022-11-08T15:31:14Z")

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It has become a step more difficult to report VAT to UK gov with their last request to report only by software, without any exemption even if our products are always with a 0 VAT rate.

> **[Find software that's compatible with Making Tax Digital for VAT](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/find-software-thats-compatible-with-making-tax-digital-for-vat)**
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> Check which software packages you can use to keep VAT records and submit your VAT Returns.

Has anyone met these requirements too in his business? Is there a non official tryton module to handle this VAT report (three months frequency)?

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**Author:** ![ced](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/ced/32/1237_2.png) [@ced](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/ced)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/vat-invoice-and-collect-for-brexit/3905/6 "2022-11-08T15:58:12Z")

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This is discussed on [Support for UK HMRC Making Tax Digital (MTD) - #8 by edbo](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/support-for-uk-hmrc-making-tax-digital-mtd/2034/8)
