Crowd-funding campaign

(Cédric Krier) #1

B2CK would like to organize another crowd-funding campaign (like for sao, GTK±3, task queue & notification).
We have some ideas but we would like to have your feedback about which one to start:

(Jonathan Levy) #2

Oops. I thought clicking would take me to more info, but instead I voted by accident. You can disregard one vote for “permanent notification.”

(Cédric Krier) #3

You can change your vote.
The options are link because of a bug in discourse. When editing it was converted into the title but once posted they are just links.

(Cédric Krier) #4

Thanks everyone for the feedback :ok_hand:
Here is the first campaign: Tryton: creation helper

(Cédric Krier) #5

If only all voters just put 300€, the campaign will be secured.

(Cédric Krier) #6

It left only 24 hours to fund the campaign and get the creation helper on the next release.

(Johan CROS) #7

Hi All,

If i contribute to the campaign, i can get an invoice ?

Sorry it’s the first time :slight_smile:

(Cédric Krier) #8

No we do not emit invoices because it is a donation-basedcrowdfunding so no VAT applies but we can send receipt letters on demand if the campaign succeed.

(Johan CROS) #9

Do you know How it works for a french company ? tomorrow i’ll contact my accountant to check that i will not do a mistake :confused:

(Cédric Krier) #10

Normally, it should be booked as investment.

(udono) #11

IIUC the referenced paper is just a discussion template. There are no discussion results included. I don’t know that it would be an EU law or the law of any of its member countries. In future it may be handled as donation-based-crowd-funding without VAT by the tax authorities, but for now IMHO we must stay on what we have: Invoicing.

(Cédric Krier) #12

This is not the advise of our accountant.

(Maxime Richez) #13

Anyway the campaign is now finished and did not reach the fixed goal… :frowning:

(Cédric Krier) #14

As you have seen the campaign is closed and it reached only 42%. So the creation helper will not be developed for the next release nor any other propose topic.

We are disappointed by the failure and the amount collected. This amount (850€) does not even cover the effort spent by B2CK to make a single major release of Tryton. (For the record in 2018, B2CK spent more than 320 hours of volunteer work for Tryton (without counting personal time)). We are also disappointed by the number of contributors because it does not represent even 1% of the estimated users.

We think that a project like Tryton need to constantly evolve and improve if we want it to keep existing users and attract new ones. Unfortunately such investment does not seem to be possible using crowd-funding even if the topic is chosen by the community.
If the investment can not come at least partially from the community but relies mainly on B2CK’s direct customers, this can be a threat to the well-being of community.

We hope the community will find a way to secure the improvements of the project for the future.

(Sergi Almacellas Abellana) #15

From our point of view we try to contribute as much as possible by spending time on the project, providing new features and fixing existing issues. Having said that, we expected that the Finalize Multicompany campaing where published and we planned to donate on it, that was one reason to do not donate on the current campaign.

I always thought that a yearly recurrent donation for all service providers will be a good improvement on this way. This will allow to spend this money on the recurring expenses of the foundation and to secure a fixed amount that can be used for fund crowdfunding campaigns.