# Best practices for organizing journals, numbering movments,

**URL:** https://discuss.tryton.org/t/best-practices-for-organizing-journals-numbering-movments/6546
**Category:** User
**Tags:** accounting
**Created:** [September 29, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/best-practices-for-organizing-journals-numbering-movments/6546 "2023-09-29T16:11:02Z")
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### Author: ![hobbes](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a698b9/32.png) [@hobbes](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/hobbes)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/best-practices-for-organizing-journals-numbering-movments/6546/1 "2023-09-29T16:11:03Z")

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Hello tryton community,

are there best practices for organizing accounting journals and numbering entries ? (I’m using the Belgian chart of accounts if this is relevant)

I mean, some things are organized for us when we define fiscal years and periods: the sequences for invoices, credit notes, and posted moves.

But for more generic accounting journals (notably miscellaneous transactions), how is this best done ?

One journal per year with its own sequence ?

Or is it better to have one multi-years journal with several sequences depending on the period ? Although I have not found the possibility to implement that latter system in tryton, but maybe I’m missing something.

And should those be sequences or strict sequences ?

Thanks for your input,

Rémi

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### Author: ![ced](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/ced/32/1237_2.png) [@ced](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/ced)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/best-practices-for-organizing-journals-numbering-movments/6546/2 "2023-09-30T14:48:18Z")

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> [@hobbes](#):
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> But for more generic accounting journals (notably miscellaneous transactions), how is this best done ?

The sequence on journal is just to generate a number for the move. This is mainly to distinct moves until they are posted.  
I personally see it as a relic of manual accounting but that accountant like to have. There is no best practice for it in Tryton because Tryton has not use for it.

> [@hobbes](#):
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> Although I have not found the possibility to implement that latter system in tryton, but maybe I’m missing something.

The journal-sequence does not use the fiscal year in standard but it could be implemented. But I doubt there is a real benefit.

> [@hobbes](#):
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> And should those be sequences or strict sequences ?

For move number we use non-strict sequence because it is not really important.

But for the post move sequence, we also use non-strict sequence but I’m wondering if we should not [use a strict sequence](https://foss.heptapod.net/tryton/tryton/-/issues/12603).

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### Author: ![hobbes](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a698b9/32.png) [@hobbes](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/hobbes)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2023, 11:13am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/best-practices-for-organizing-journals-numbering-movments/6546/3 "2023-10-02T11:13:47Z")

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> [@ced](#):
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> The sequence on journal is just to generate a number for the move. This is mainly to distinct moves until they are posted.  
> I personally see it as a relic of manual accounting but that accountant like to have. There is no best practice for it in Tryton because Tryton has not use for it.

you mean that it has no legal/regulatory accounting impact ? It’s just for us mere humans who need a way to identify the moves ? I thought that those journal entries needed to be numbered sequentially, so that controllers could verify that nothing dubious had taken place…

So if I understand correctly, I just use one big journal per type of move (miscellaneous transactions, vat, salaries,…), with a normal incremental sequence, and don’t care about the numbers being generated. They are just there so that I can identify the moves when needed ?

> [@ced](#):
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> The journal-sequence does not use the fiscal year in standard but it could be implemented. But I doubt there is a real benefit.

just to easily visually identify the moves pertaining to a specific fiscal period. But I guess I can filter per fiscal period or year in the different forms where this might be needed.

Thanks

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#### Post date: [October 2, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/best-practices-for-organizing-journals-numbering-movments/6546/4 "2023-10-02T11:22:20Z")

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> [@hobbes](#):
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> I thought that those journal entries needed to be numbered sequentially, so that controllers could verify that nothing dubious had taken place…

This is done by the posting number/sequence.

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### Author: ![hobbes](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a698b9/32.png) [@hobbes](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/hobbes)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/best-practices-for-organizing-journals-numbering-movments/6546/5 "2023-10-02T11:44:00Z")

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which is period dependent. Ok, now I see it, thanks.

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#### Post date: [November 1, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/best-practices-for-organizing-journals-numbering-movments/6546/6 "2023-11-01T11:44:29Z")

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