# Account\_fr Why are 645 and 6451 "closed"?

**URL:** <https://discuss.tryton.org/t/account-fr-why-are-645-and-6451-closed/4128>\
**Category:** User\
**Tags:** accounting\
**Created:** [May 2, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/account-fr-why-are-645-and-6451-closed/4128 "2021-05-02T16:14:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![jcm](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/jcm/32/344_2.png) [@jcm](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/jcm)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/account-fr-why-are-645-and-6451-closed/4128/1 "2021-05-02T16:14:15Z")

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Hi,

Social cotisations accounts are marked as “closed”. Is there a good reason for it?  
IMHO they should be not closed.

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**Author:** ![pokoli](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/pokoli/32/22_2.png) [@pokoli](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/pokoli)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 6:58am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/account-fr-why-are-645-and-6451-closed/4128/2 "2021-05-03T06:58:47Z")

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When a chart of accounts set an account as closed is because we expect the user to create sub accounts for them.

Could you elaborate why should not be closed?

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**Author:** ![jcm](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/jcm/32/344_2.png) [@jcm](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/jcm)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 8:30am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/account-fr-why-are-645-and-6451-closed/4128/3 "2021-05-03T08:30:08Z")

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For 645 no problem (used to be a view).  
But for \*6451. Cotisations à l’URSSAF it should be open, like 6452-6454 (see [Plan comptable général (France) — Wikipédia](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_comptable_g%C3%A9n%C3%A9ral_(France)#Classe_6_:_Comptes_de_charges))

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**Author:** ![ced](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/ced/32/1237_2.png) [@ced](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/ced)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 8:50am UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/account-fr-why-are-645-and-6451-closed/4128/4 "2021-05-03T08:50:20Z")

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Please fill an issue: [https://bugs.tryton.org/](https://bugs.tryton.org/)

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**Author:** ![jcm](https://discuss-cdn.tryton.org/user_avatar/discuss.tryton.org/jcm/32/344_2.png) [@jcm](https://discuss.tryton.org/u/jcm)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 12:06pm UTC](https://discuss.tryton.org/t/account-fr-why-are-645-and-6451-closed/4128/5 "2021-05-04T12:06:53Z")

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[issue10385](https://bugs.tryton.org/issue10385) created  
tried to create my first [review340731002](https://codereview.tryton.org/340731002)